This week's lineartist is: the highly insightful comment section regular, Miss Kory!
The thumbnail I gave her: [here]
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My favourite thing about this page: I love how Kory added so much more to the panel 2 pose by putting Blaire's hands around Riley's neck, rather than on her shoulders as I originally envisioned. It's so subtle but sinister. She is also responsible for Brick's much more pronounced clown nose!
Mushy Stuff: Kory is an incredibly kind, thoughtful and intelligent woman. I am so thankful for how often she has offered advice on how to make LB better (and worse in a good way, hehe >:3), and also that by making LB , I had the good fortune to meet her at all.
Shout Out: Kory has her own webcomic she's working on the first chapter of! It's called Chevaleresses, and she describes it as a feminist, lesbian fantasy story. There are already several pages to enjoy - so please send some love to her inbox!
86 thoughts on “BETWEEN BONUS: When Riley Met Brick Page 2”
Miss Kory
*incoherent excited rambles and noises*
K
Oh man, Riley has no idea what a bullet she just (at least temporarily) dodged with that absolutely adorable non-answer. I love her. What a sweet, smooth thing to say.
It’s really creepy how Blaire puts her on the spot like that, especially the phrasing. Sexual boundaries as “obsession” and same-sex attraction reduced to “what’s in people’s pants” as if it wasn’t so much more than that. Sadly an attitude I’ve encountered plenty.
No, it’s not just about what’s in her pants, it’s also about voice, and scent, and general shape, and all the million little details. (But it also is about what’s in her pants, haha.)
Very fitting and typical of Brick to be disgusted by very very mild same-sex affection, too. But she’d lose her shit for sure if anyone implied that might be homophobia! She’s ~queer~ after all and couldn’t possibly be homophobic, you aphobic bigot, or something like that.
rustyhearts
Ignorance is Bliss for dear Riley, and she’s about to lose it completely π
Blaire’s absolutely putting Riley on the spot to keep her in line. She doesn’t want to be accused of transphobia by association if Riley says something wrong – the horror! π±
I will never be over the disgusting homophobic talking points that gendies dug up and re-popularized. The way they twisted “hearts not parts” from “same sex couples love each other the same way as opposite sex couples. Regardless of which sex you love, we all feel love” to “the sex of the person shouldn’t matter. If you only like one sex you’re a bigot“.
The whole “genital obsession/fetishism” misnomer is so fucking dishonest as well! As if the gender crowd didn’t spend countless back and forths with gay people, fencing off language we could use to describe our exclusive same-sex attraction.
Lesbians:
we are only attracted to women.
Genders:
transwomen ARE women.
Lesbians:
we are only attracted to females.
Genders:
only incels call women “females” and transwomen have female brains and their bodies totally become female when they take hormones. The “mouthfeel” of girl dick is different. Lesbians use strapons so why not girl dick??
Lesbians:
uh many of us dont even like penetrative sex. And a strap on is not a dick.
But okay, we are only attracted to the same sex then..
Genders:
umm conversion therapists use that term therefore you’re a conversion therapis (Don’t you dare bring up their SafeT Sexuality is Fluid talking points they use on homosexuals!!)
Also sex is a social construct! Anyone who feels like a woman is a woman.
Lesbians:
jfc we only want pussy!! Dick is disgusting!!
Genders:
so you see women as walking vaginas?? You’re just like men. You’re misogynist. You’re disgusting.
You have a fetish. Kinkshaming is bad, bdsm is cool, but you having a fetish for a body part its literally impossible to have a fetish for BECAUSE ITS FUCKING GENITALS, is evil and unforgivable!!.
I will NEVER forgive gendershits for this one. And I eill NEVER let them forget what they did.
And you’re spot on about Brick. Modeled after all those disgusting homophobes who would bemoan same sex couples kissing at pride because they’re “asexual”. Uh huh. Almost like peoppe who lack attraction to anyone.. shouldn’t be grouped with people who all share same-sex attraction π€―π€―π€―
Jay
Right on! It’s funny how it’s the same people who whinge about how PDA makes them feel “uncomfy” at pride (π») are the same people who say grown men wearing ABDL stuff, bondage gear and dressing as sexualised female caricatures while walking their girfriends on leashes around KIDS at pride! “Is an integral part of the queer community” (real quote) π€’
Saying kink shouldn’t be at public pride events is kinkshaming and bigoted but being disgusted at same sex affection and calling gay people degenerates for “fetishing” genitals is progressive.
ππ³π’π―π΄parent π
Jay
The artstyle in this panel reminds me of Coraline by P. Craig Russell, very fitting, saying that I think I’d rather take my chances with the Other Mother than the QT club π
Miss Kory
Other Mother is definitely more able to be reasonned with that’s for sure xD
Thank you so much for the compliment! I had never saw that guy’s work and i’m very flattered <3
Miss Kory
Other Mother is definitely more able to be reasonned with that’s for sure xD
Thank you so much for the compliment! I had never saw that guy’s work and i’m very flattered <3
Jay
Riley: “because we’d have to break up for that to happen”
Me: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/265/962/2b6
rustyhearts
Jay
Brick: Hello lesbian woman I’ve just met… YOU WOULD HAVE SEX WITH A PENIS RIGHT???
Also Brick: ew stop being affectionate with your girlfriend in front of me that’s inappropriate!!!
Why you gotta be so accurate Rusty π
rustyhearts
Please forgive me, breastie ππ
Blais
Miss Kory did a delightful job on the lineart, both with the poses, face expressions, and with Brick in all her clownish glory!
Brick seems to think lesbians are attracted to she/her pronouns and (mtf men’s) self-image. Noticing the shape of someone’s body? Their voice? The parts of their body they’d touch during sex? A nonfactor, Brick is sure π
I really wish Riley had said “that was PDA?” out loud. I understand why she’s afraid to stand up for herself, but it’d be satisfying to watch Brick sloppily explain why it’s not homophobic for her to show disgust at Blaire saying “aww, baby” to her girlfriend (in what was formerly a gay org…).
Also, they have her in a chair while they saunter around like the “good cop bad cop” routine in a police interrogation. That’s so telling. (Is it just me, or does the trans movement employ this tactic a lot? “It’s oppressive and wrong and boring at best for cis girls to do (a given thing), but that same action is unquestionable, beautiful, and revolutionary on a trans man/enby.”)
Rusty does justice to the “Emperor’s new clothes”/upside-down paperthin-veiled-homophobia of the “TQ Union” every time the gendies appear, and now that they’re interacting with an actual lesbian, I wish I could reach into the screen and pull Riley out of there.
Also, it’s unnerving how anytime Riley is visibly confused about gender ideology or having cognitive dissonance when she tries to integrate the beliefs, Blaire never really answers her questions, instead opting for caressing her, initiating sex, or similar (iirc the “maybe exploring your femininity in a non-traumatic way will help” panel shows Riley’s face covered in her lipstick marks).
I don’t like it, and can only speculate what’s going through Blaire’s head in those moments. Something tells me Blaire barely thinks it through – something like “she needs my affection so she feels reassured” – but that doesn’t make it any less creepy.
Blaire gives a talking point, cuddles Riley so she doesn’t concentrate on the lesbophobic/misogynistic implications, and feels no need to discuss it or think about it further. After all, that might make either of them come to new conclusions, and those have to be preapproved by the trans movement.
rustyhearts
Thank you so much for this comment, your observations and blaire-analysis were a pleasure to read π₯°π₯°π₯°
Miss Kory
Thank you so much ! <3 I'm so glad Brick's stupid face is a success π
Simp
Question!
How would Brick react if some transwoman forced a relationship on her? I’m talking a creep who keeps persisting to wear her down to date her? Would she keep up being asexual sex averse, or would she double down?
π±
but rusty said brick is straight so she would agree??? MIND=FVCKED
rustyhearts
Why would Brick agree just because she has the capacity to be attracted to men?
π±
bc thats how u view sexuality? commenter asked what would happen if a trans woman forced a relationshio on brick which is a deranged question imo
so if a cis woman forced herself on brick would that be any different or wut
would they decline cuz the fvck cis bitches thing going on or cause they’re straight
also u got so angry u changed the pronouns i initially used for brick
my house my rules libertarian rusty w
this one’s gonna be censored as well.
rustyhearts
Are you asking how I view sexuality or are you telling me? You seem very certain of my beliefs.
Yes, trying to force someone into a relationship is deranged. Welcome to the point.
Yep, no pronoun pretend games here. We use sex-based pronouns because they accurately describe reality.
π±
what if riley declines the hypothetical trans woman just bc she’s not into him and not cuz he’s not a woman
just cause u wouldnt date a blonde or a tall woman doesnt make the woman less of one
only jerks insist that preferences are discriminatory and u should force yourself to like blonde/ginger/tall/short/skinny/fat/cis/trans women
plus trans women are just regular people u cant throw them around and ask whether someone would fuck them or not like theyre toys with zero agency.
no one’s self worth is determined by how fvckable they are
i was mentioning the original comment bc it doesnt make any sense.
wym by “Would they keep up being asexual sex averse, or would they double down?”
what kinda dumbass fvcking question is that, no one owes anyone sex and everyone in their sane mind knows that
is it cause male privilege so brick has to give up her personal boundaries to please the male?
but Brick is straight so she should be alright with that right?
then what even does it have to do with being trans and not with crossing boundaries
op is either just dumb or fucking with us or their joke is dumb as shit try make a good one again
rustyhearts
what if riley declines the hypothetical trans woman just bc she’s not into him and not cuz he’s not a woman
TIMs aren’t women, they’re a subcategory of male. I cannot be transwoman because I am female.
If Riley declined the hypothetical TIM around this crowd of trans supporters, she would be labelled transphobic, a genital fetishist, and TERF.
Brick’s behaviour is based on (and stands to critique) beliefs popular among trans ppl and their supporters that I and other women (many of whom are also lesbians) have had the displeasure of interacting with.
just cause u wouldnt date a blonde or a tall woman doesnt make the woman less of one
only jerks insist that preferences are discriminatory and u should force yourself to like blonde/ginger/tall/short/skinny/fat/cis/trans women
Some of these things are not like the others.
Sexual Orientation is not a preference. It is the sex(es) your attraction orients around. Set in stone.
Homo= same sex. Hetero = the other sex. Bi = two, aka both sexes (female and male).
Hair colour, body size/shape/height, are all preferences.
Lesbians do not have a preference to not date TIMs. They are exclusively attracted to the female sex, of which TIMs are not and can never be. Elaborate surgeries or other cosmetic procedures done to deceive are not proof of this either.
Jerk is a much tamer term than I would assign, but regardless yes. Only bad people do this, and it is an incredibly popular way of thinking among trans ppl and their supporters.
It is not fringe behaviour. It is at the heart of the ideology. If “transwomen are women” atleast SOME lesbians have the capacity to be attracted to them – that’s where the thinking comes from.
But we don’t. Because they are male.
(My original)
(“Art fix”)
Why do you think this is a popular way to respond to lesbians expressing our homosexuality?
plus trans women are just regular people u cant throw them around and ask whether someone would fuck them or not like theyre toys with zero agency. no one’s self worth is determined by how fvckable they are
Agreed. And a willingness to fuck someone isn’t activism anyway, right? Like whether or not you say yes or no to sleeping with a hypothetical TIM – that hasn’t done anything to improve the treatment standards of his possible dysphoira, or aid TIMs who are prostituted to get out, has it?
Brick, like many who support gender ideology don’t give a shit about that stuff. Once again: welcome to the point.
i was mentioning the original comment bc it doesnt make any sense.
wym by “Would they keep up being asexual sex averse, or would they double down?”
what kinda dumbass fucking question is that, no one owes anyone sex and everyone in their sane mind knows that
is it cause male privilege so brick has to give up her personal boundaries to please the male?
but Brick is straight so she should be alright with that right?
I believe the point of the hypothetical was to point out Brick’s hypocrisy. She thinks Riley must ignore her innate lack of attraction to males and boundaries as a lesbian, but would likely be appalled had the same question been turned on her, even if by a TIM.
So she would be faced with choosing between being seen as a hypocrite (and transphobic/ a “terf” by many trans ppl and supporters) OR following the standards she expects of Riley.
You seem to be mistaken about sexual orientation. Brick being heterosexual doesn’t mean she is attracted to ALL men. Nobody attracted to men is attracted to all men.
Even if she was open about her heterosexuality, why do you think that removes her agency to say no?
The removal of agency comes from her belief (based on IRL trans ppl and their supporters)that rejecting TIMs is an act of transphobia.
then what even does it have to do with being trans and not with crossing boundaries
op is either just dumb or fucking with us or their joke is dumb as shit try make a good one again
She wasn’t making a joke, nor is she dumb. You simply did not understand what she had to say, and did not put forth any effort to do so. I can only guess, based on your attitude, it is because you do not like that we know and say TIMs are male, and largely only continue to read LB and the comments in bad faith.
That, and you do not understand the positions we hold nor the experiences we have had with trans activism.
π±
on the first claim
ok, riley would get told that then what? suck it up, or are u gonna avoid confrontation for a good chunk of your life just cause someone would call you something mean
especially if you know they’re in the wrong
on the first claim pt2
yeah just like a green eyed woman cant be a blue eyed woman or a 6 foot woman cant be a 4 foot woman. there are male women and female women; more widely known as trans women and cis women
gonna repeat myself that being attracted to either exclusively is not discriminatory and this claim should be fought against
woman is a social role, while being female is biological. though transgender people in/post medical transition cannot become fully male/female at the moment, theyre almost male/female at best and intersex at worst. it doesnt represent reality to claim that cis passing transgender women do not live through some to most of cisgender women’s experience and must not be included in discussions of women’s rights
on the second claim
some lesbians like trans women. it doesn’t make them any less lesbian. not strictly homosexual, perhaps. lots of lesbian transgender women prefer other trans women to cisgender ones. it doesn’t make them any less of lesbians. most lesbian cisgender women prefer other cisgender women. again there is nothing wrong with that, that is just the reality. if someone doesn’t like it, that’s a problem for themselves to resolve. however it’s counterproductive to deny these facts
re: if a cisgender lesbian is attracted to a trans woman she is not a lesbian
even if that’s true, why does it matter if she still identifies as a lesbian? what does it change or affect? they still experience homophobia if they pass as a lesbian couple
is it about identity purity? why does it matter if someone identifies with a label in an uncoventional way?
other claims
no one except terminally online weirdos claims that rejecting someone transgender is transphobic
most adult transgender people realize that theyre consciously shrinking their dating pool and that a relationship built on forcing and pretending is much worse than no relationship
again if someone says otherwise, theyre not viewing this issue realistically
i have put oh so much effort to get cheap jokes from the comment sections of the entire comic to no success
an easy way out is to call someone bad faith
most likely not understanding what that stands for
rustyhearts
Let’s do a reading comprehension exercise, feels like you’ve missed a lot them in school. You seem to be struggling with the obvious – why would Riley be afraid to be labelled transphobic.
We’ll forget the real world where women are de-platformed from speaking at or hosting gender critical events, fired from their jobs/taken to court,, where lesbian bars and women’s facilities are either rebranded as “inclusive” (aka, allowing males) or closed down, and just focus on just comic information to make it nice and easy for you :3
1) Riley likes her girlfriend Blaire. Blaire thinks it’s bigotry to not be attracted to males, even if they call themselves women.
Why mightn’t Riley want Blaire to know that she isn’t attracted to males even if they call themselves women?
2)Riley and Blaire work together, at a store managed by Blaire’s aunt. Blaire is also an assistant manager, training to be a manager under her aunt.
Is there an imbalance of power in this relationship? Explain why/why not.
How might Blaire use her position of power, were her relationship with Riley to end messily?
3) Riley is often avoidant to her own detriment. For example: she hid her cat from her previous landlord and was evicted, she avoided telling Jaden about her cat until she was absolutely forced to, and then avoided telling her current landlord about her cat until it became unavoidable.
Do you think this is a character-flaw within Riley, or a writing flaw of the author?
That concludes the LB reading comprehension exam – have the papers on my desk before the end of class. Hopefully we can improve your skills together :3
Let’s do another one on the importance of language being defined collectively, rather than individually, so that it can be used for its intended purpose: to communicate with one another! Yay π
1)There are vegetarian carnivores, and carnivorous herbivores.
Highlight which words are misused in this statement, and provide their actual definitions in your answer.
How might the above phrases be unhelpful when communicating with others?
Is it “identity purity” to state “herbivores do not eat meat and thus cannot be carnivorous. They only eat plants”? Explain why/why not.
How might a vegetarian (someone who does not eat meat) be affected if they ordered a vegetarian meal, and were served meat, because the chef believes that vegetarianism can include carnivores?
How might an animal that is a herbivore (only eats plants) be affected in the care of a zookeeper who believes being a carnivore is simply an ‘unconventional way’ to be a herbivore?
Is a vegetarian who eats meat someone who approaches vegetarianism “unconventionally”, or are they using a term dishonestly? Explain why/why not.
Okay last and final one! It’s just one question: does successfully fooling someone into believing your something you aren’t, mean you have become what you pretend to be? Explain why/why not.
Thanks for coming :3
π± so angwy >:(((
sure missus rusty or your real name you blurred out in your childhood drawings let’s do a reading comprehension excercise together since you seem to have none of it either, there’s so much common between us :3
oh wow, i never thought about that! how this writing is hollow and shitty and riley is a womanchild pussy that cannot ever stand up for herself, all she does is whine and be fucking annoying atp shes just asking for whatever is happening to her π
wait i know an excellent excercise just for you please highlight the dumbfuck troll logic you put into implying being a herbivore is a social identity >_< dont worry, if youre stuck, we can go over this together!
it's not like eating meat as a herbivore affects you physically while being forced to have relations with someone traumatizes you psychologically which only applies to humans, so i totally get what youre saying now
Did you read it with your ass? Explain why/why not.
Is there any sense in me talking to you any further until you have learnt to not be such a condescending [misognyy redacted by rusty] Explain why/why not.
no, thank *YOU* for coming, miss rusty :3
rustyhearts
0% see me after class!
Mare Arbustorum
trying to reply to π± here excuse that I couldnt figure out how to in this long chain. I would like to try and explain something.
βwoman is a social role, while being female is biological. though transgender people in/post medical transition cannot become fully male/female at the moment, theyre almost male/female at best and intersex at worst. β
-The gender critical stance is because we are critical of the idea that gender(sexist social construct enforced by patriarchal standards) should be the standard of identification of a person instead of sex.
Having your sex recognized will say nothing of your personality or clothes and only of your biological structure, important for things like laws(protecting sex based rights) and medical care(woman and men have differences that affect medical treatment).
You cannot become partially female. Intersex(or people with DSD) are not partially female or male(its this idea that causes DSD children to be operated on in the hopes of making them βfully maleβ or βfully femaleβ. The idea that surgically operating on their genitals or providing them with hormones that do not match their biological structure makes them closer on some spectrum of sex that doesnt exist.). They are males and females with diagnosable conditions, diagnosable because we can know their sex(yes all conditions).
I reject the idea that DSD conditions has anything to do with trans arguments and reject you using them as pawns but I entertain your argument for education purposes and hope you think about getting a deeper understanding of DSD conditions before using them in your arguments.
βis it about identity purity? why does it matter if someone identifies with a label in an uncoventional way?β
we reject this perspective on the grounds that you cannot identify as a sex. While you personally try to differentiate between sex and gender, you still refer to biological males as βtrans womenβ.
The word woman is the humanizing word for a adult human female. Just as a doe is a female adult deer or a mare is a female adult horse.
Even you try to say you are differentiating between sex and gender, you still think our sex based word (woman) should be overridden by gender, eradicating the distinction. This is what we fundamentally disagree one.
You know they are men, you just believe they should be able to lie about that and that others should be forced to lie that they believe them as well.
π±homophobic straight girl says:
gonna reply to you since youre not acting like a baby unlike rusty
i agree with the point that sex should matter in discussions of medical care however self identity is a human right too and individuals struggling with gender dysphoria should receive proper care as well, be it therapy or transition
i never said you cant tell people’s sex.
i just said that it doesn’t and shouldnt matter in larger contexts when the person is percieved as their (self identified) gender
i would argue that it is important to differ cisgender people and medically transitioned transgender people because they require specific care, that’s why i argued transitioned people are not fully the other SEX but also not their birth SEX
the identity purity comment was not about gender identity it was about sexuality.
i meant it as so what if a lesbian woman is attracted to someone other than a cisgender woman? why does it matter if she still identifies as a lesbian? what does it affect or who does it harm?
why are people so pressed about bisexual lesbians or lesbians with exceptions?
yes, i get what youre talking about but a doe has no sense of identity neither does a mare. sexuality and gender are entirely human concepts. there are no transgender/homosexual/heterosexual animals other from humans thats what my entire point is about
i “know” they are partially/previously male, not men. male and female are neutral descriptions, but man and woman are social identities which wrongfully get conflated with the descriptions for human sex.
a percieved social identity defines which socialization you go through, how people address and treat you, how you are most likely to act (again socialization) etc. it is not lying it’s having a self identity and expecting others to have some respect towards it, especially if the person is struggling with dysphoria
π±
forgot to include this
if someone who is transgender goes through hrt, srs, changes all legal documents and is living daily life as their gender, why does it matter what their initial sex/gender was? what does it affect? since theyre treated as their gender, they cant just opt out of misogyny by saying actually i am a trans woman so you must respect my male privilege by birth and expect people to immediately apologize and bow down to them
π±homophobic straight girl in her own words
you humor me rusty, i am not attracted to men so much for the female unity yet everyone who disagrees with you is a het cocksucker traitor
rustyhearts
What would “cocksucking” have to do with straight women when sexuality has exceptions in your eyes, breastie?
-100%
(Also Miss Mare is a straight woman. Oopsie for you again Silly Billy!)
Mare Arbustorum
gonna keep it short since you are very ignorant. My response being about sex instead of sexuality is also because of the below response:
Women are adult human females.
Lesbians are women who are attracted to women. We disagree on the fundamental idea that you can identify as a sex(and therefore, sexuality, which is sex based).
I also understand why you would believe sexuality can identified into if you do not understand that homosexually, heterosexuality, bisexuallity are in fact present in other animals besides humans and is not socially constructed.
Also due to the insanely batshit and homophobic thing you just said I wont be arguing with you further, and also rusty is the one who has to defend her sexuality (which you literally just tried to claim was a human social construction and not a biological phenomenon present in nature.) to ignorant homophobes like you, she doesnt owe you any decency as all yall do is come in her comments and spew the most ignorant hateful bullshit.
You should be embarrassed and ashamed.
Third Sex Chromosome But Not Third Sex
Hey Mare, just wanted to say thanks for sticking up for people with DSD. It’s not freaky third sexes or proof of a spectrum, it’s “just” a damn medical condition. No one claims humans aren’t bipedal just because some birth defects result in not being born with two legs. And it’s got nothing to do with trans anyway, nor is it an identity. So, thank you.
Mare Arbustorum
Of course. Trans supporters love these two popular tactics in their debates.
One is to use alternative definitions while refusing to acknowledge that their definition has any significant difference so that the conversation can only ever be talking past each other.
The other is to invoke DSD because they know majority of people (including themselves) do not know enough about it to continue the conversation.
The trans movement aims to not only normalize identifying as a sex but also identifying as having medical conditions. Trans people do not become “basically intersex” and interfakers cause real harm to DSD individuals and their ability to receive proper care. Its sickening.
TheWestWind
Yo did you seriously use the phrase “bisexual lesbian?” … think about what you just said. This is what happens when words have no meaning.
ShyBottomDweller
Can I add something? Just 2 cents Regarding your “Why does it matter when someone uses a label in an unconventional way? what if a lesbian woman is attracted to someone other than a cisgender woman? why does it matter if she still identifies as a lesbian? what does it affect or who does it harm? why are people so pressed about bisexual lesbians or lesbians with exceptions?” somewhere down there (i cant reply there for some reason so using this comment instead, sorry)
Let me try to put it in a way that i feel can help you understand Rusty and Mare’s side better. For reference, I am not RadFem, an activist nor a religious conservative.
The example: Consider There are transwomen who say they are women and agree they should be counted as lesbians because they are just as much women as the rest, and get offended if you call them male or men or he. Lets call these Type 1. Also there are transwomen who say they’re not women nor female, and dont use the lesbian label and DGAF if you see them as a subtype of men or male as long as they get to use a new name and look how they want, and still use male bathrooms. Lets call this Type 2. Both groups are composed of “trans people just living their life”. Okay.
Now lets suppose that for whatever reason the number of Type 2 comes to surpass the number of type 1. Would you get angry and offended if someone said “trans women are not women/lesbians/female/etc” or “trans women should not enter clubs and facilities for women” and pointed to this type 2 group as part of their reasoning? Woud you let it go and shrug?? Would you tell type 1s “Why are you so pressed about getting called a man? you’ll survive”???
Another example: Suppose you have a group of gay men who view the label Gay as meaning “man x man sexual desire” and then you got another that meant “man x man or man x child or man x animals desire” and then you got another that meant “man x truck or man x pillow desire” (a type of objectophilia).
If the second or third group became the head of “Gay Rights” how do you think it would affect how people conceive of “gay men” or what “gay rights” and “gay dating”must involve??? Once again, would it not matter to you these “unconventional uses” whatsoever???
Yet another example: Would you (re)act the same way if a big group of natal females started calling themselves ‘DFAB trans women’ and started using trans women housing orgs, trans women charity funds, trans women support groups and so on?? What do you think would happen? Do you think the DMAB trans women should respect their identity too and not be exclusionary??
Things like these do not matter when its 1-3 individuals. It matters in larger numbers and affects conceptualization, which is the base of everything else.
rustyhearts
See that’s the one boundary I’ve seen respected – at least when it comes to the “would you date a transwoman” nonsense.
It’s an all or nothing situation. You need to be open to everything. Or closed to everything. Anything in-between is exclusionary.
Why I think you see a lot of young girls using it as a defense strategy against these kind of attempts at boundary crossing.
Nonnie
>plus trans women are just regular people u cant throw them around and ask whether someone would fuck them or not like theyre toys with zero agency.
Yet trans women are the first one to whine “no one want to fuck them” when they go to lesbians because they know they’re men, no matter how many surgeries they perform. Almost like if bi/pan women do not exist to them. Hmmmmm.
Charly
Omg Bricks face in the first panel π she’s such a clown, her disgust at such mild affection between a same sex couple is so incredibly weird as well
This artstyle is rly good tho, I look forward to checking out Korys webcomic!
rustyhearts
π€‘π€‘ hope you’re ready for more brick-brand clownery next week! π€‘π€‘
And I agree! Kory did a fantastic job with this page and she’s got some really awesome stories to tell in her own webcomic π₯°π₯°
Miss Kory
*delighted blushing giggle* Thank you !
Ms. Clicker
How some of you find Brick too is beyond me, my dear gyns.
Sof
Brick: You are a lesbian but would you sleep with a TRANSwoman???? You are a TERF if you don’t.
Also Brick: Keep the PDA to a minimum! Ew!
Girl just asked a lesbian if she would sleep with a male and then got mad when said lesbian is sweet with her gf π
rustyhearts
Umm the Motives are totally different. Brick was asking invasive but necessary questions to protect twans women π€π€π€
Meanwhile Riley was committing aphobia >:(
Jay
Ikr! Tiffany can read her gay fetish smut out in the open, Timothy can prance around, bulge visible from space, but oh no… a woman stroking her girlfriends head π± Won’t somebody think of the children!!!
bingle
I’m a pro-trans detransitioner and I really love this comic. I think LB does show a lot of the homophobia and more insidious sides present in the trans community, and it helps me understand the pain that GC lesbians feel as their community feels pushed aside in the wake of trans activism.
I know plenty of trans people who aren’t like the QT Collective and I hope someday there can be a happier medium. Keep up with the beautiful art though. I love Blick and I LOVED Chapter 9.
rustyhearts
Welcome to the comment section and thank you for contributing to it! I hope you continue to enjoy reading LB, and that you’re detransition has brought you more peace π©·
Didi
Now that I’m not using my phone, I can leave a better comment! Brick reminds me so, so strongly of someone I used to be friends with who showed disgust towards lesbians/bi women and hid behind her label of asexuality to get away with it.
Like, full on visceral UGH the moment I saw the last panel. She always went out of her way to say things along the lines of DON’T WORRY, I’M NOT GAY!! no matter how innocent my statements were, cos eww, sex.
It all likely came from her older sister more or less being disowned by her (very religious) family, but boy, was it sure something.
Brick, regrettably, is true to life in more than just her Gendie ways.
rustyhearts
Sharing your visceral UGH moment, breastie U_U
Very glad to hear you aren’t friends with this homophobe anymore!
Wabber Bobble
I’m loving this guest pages project. Great art from Mare and Miss Kory π
Ew, Brick is a nasty piece of homophobic work. I don’t look forward to the big blow-up at all but at the same time, I just want this crappy relationship to end so Riley can drop these homophobes from her life.
rustyhearts
I’d definitely love to host guest artists in the future! It was really fun to watch everyone add her own flavour to her assigned page, and it was like a vacation for me, because I didn’t have to draw anything, just thumbnail and colour!
Unfortunately there’s only one way out for Riley, and that’s to speak up. But, as I hope you can see from these flashback stages, she’s had a lot stacked against her U_U
Miss Kory
Thank you <3
Normal person
God, we were introduced to the Gendies when they were in home territory and weren’t dealing with any issues more significant than a children’s cartoon – they were dumb, but they (mostly) came off as mostly harmless.
This bonus material has been great to ease people into just how trans activists tend to be when challenged in any way (or even when they AREN’T challenged, as seen here) and I’m starting to worry about how bad things will get. Tiffany is by far the uncontested Worst of them but Brick is effortlessly giving her a run for her money lmao, can’t wait to see more.
rustyhearts
You should absolutely trust your gut breastie :3 It is going to get much worse.
Parniyaβs biggest fan
Marcie: I donβt like dick, how DARE you force me to like dick, I am ASEXUAL!!
Riley: I donβt like dick.
Marcie: what the fuck?
Crypty
Miss Kory you did a fantastic job on Brick’s emotions. Actually everyone’s emotions! I esp like Brick Yuck face (v punch-able) and Riley’s That Was PDA? face (I wear that face often when seeing certain Hot Takes online).
And yessss another comic to follow!!!
rustyhearts
I agree! I got the pleasure of watching her create Brick’s YUCK face in real time, it was hilarious!
Hope you enjoy reading her work <3
Miss Kory
Thank you!!!
I’m so relieved everyone is liking Brick’s yuck face ! And that you like Riley’s too <3 *twirl my hair*
I'm working hard on my comic and I'm delighted for your following π
brooke
i just donβt understand why itβs so hard to seperate your own preference from your respect for others. a very large majority of trans and trans supporting people agree that you donβt have to like whatβs going on in their pants or date them. no one is forcing you to. but trans people and still people who arenβt doing anything wrong to you by living their lives. you donβt have to fuck a trans woman. but fucks sake didnβt your mother teach you that if you donβt have anything nice to say donβt say anything at all? maybe learn to be respectful and just not concern yourself in what doesnβt concern you. -a cis lesbian dating a cis lesbian
rustyhearts
Homosexuality is not a preference.
If you are truly invested in only being nice, why did you send this? Not very nice imo π
Perhaps your time would be better spent understanding other lesbians who have face harassment for expressing that they will never like dick, no matter what a dick-haver calls himself , instead of pretending they haven’t experienced it because you’ve personally kept your head in the sand.
From legendary lesbian and feminist Magdalen Berns: I’d rather be rude than a fucking liar.
Jay
Your mother told you to hide your homosexuality to be nice? π I’m sorry if that happened to you but that doesn’t mean it’s okay, or give you the right to force other lesbians in the closet to save a sexist or mentally ill man’s feelings.
Nonnie
“trans people want to live in peace, yadda yadda yadda”, but they’re the first tones using homophobic slurs against gay people, erasing or modifying history to prove “we were there!” when ancient civilizations were homophobic and misogynist as Hell and, even if you don’t want to see it, they’re the first ones forcing you to date them even “if that never happens”. Quit joking around, you came to the wrong place to defend those “innocent” trans people.
ShyBottomDweller
Riley’s face at the last panel is everything. She tried to contain the shock but the whiplash was too strong.
Truth be told i am not sure if Riley’s answer was swiftly smart or a lucky brainfart moment hehe. Regardless that was very smooth. Will tha be enough for Brick though?? Will things get calm for now or escalate?? We’ll see π…
Miss Kory, in the chance you read all the comments, great job!!! You’re really talented when it comes to drawing hands, it was the first thing that drew my eyes in on the page. Best wishes for your project too!! π€β€β€
Jay
According to Rusty this IS “the calm before the storm”… absolutley bricking it (lol) for the next few pages π
ShyBottomDweller
Uhmm wait has there been a misunderstanding??? According to you, where have i “admitted” that I think lesbians can be attracted to males?? Because I dont think that and dont recall saying that, perhaps i phrased things wrongly but I thought we were on the same page that orientation is around sexes and not inner self identity, even if we disagreed somewhat over the topic of asexuality. Could you tell me where did you get that impression?
rustyhearts
Sorry breastie, the mix up is on my part. I misread who Jay replied to.
I’ve had a busy comment section today – with some homophobes in the mix. I didn’t read clearly who Jay was replying to and mistakenly thought it was one of the homophobes (username: π±) – not your comment.
Working with a website builder at the moment to make the comments less easy to mix up!
But we definitely do see eye to eye and I very much enjoy your commentary π₯°
ShyBottomDweller
I was envisioning that Brick would get a sudden call and have to leave before Riley got to endure more “femininity exploration tips” causing this flashback to end and if any other collabs pages were to come they’d be about something else peaceful, then we get longwinded Shez magic for plenty nourishment and rest, THEN gender drama again with the masquerade conflict or something, but I guess that was too naive and gentle π The remaining pathway leading to Shez chapter has been set full of thorns and glass shards, no mercy no balms no shelter.
rustyhearts
I regret to inform you that the Shez chapter… not thorn-free either breastie ππ
No rest for the breasties
Miss Kory
Thank you thank you thank you ! *smooches you*
midge
damn blaire is tall as fuck
rustyhearts
Riley is seated, breastie. As seen on the previous page π€£
midge
damn riley is short as fuck
rustyhearts
I’m sorry the concept of sitting on a chair is this challenging to you. Wishing you the best.